Legislature(2007 - 2008)CAPITOL 120

03/31/2008 05:00 PM House RULES


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HB 207 STUDENT QUESTIONNAIRES AND SURVEYS
Moved CSHB 207(RLS) Out of Committee
* HJR 40 ELECTROMAGNETIC PULSE ATTACK DEFENSE
Moved Out of Committee
Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled
HJR 40-ELECTROMAGNETIC PULSE ATTACK DEFENSE                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
5:31:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL  announced that the  final order of  business would                                                               
be  HOUSE JOINT  RESOLUTION  NO. 40,  Relating  to defending  the                                                               
state from electromagnetic pulse attacks.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:32:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   NANCY  DAHLSTROM,   Alaska  State   Legislature,                                                               
speaking  as the  chair of  the Joint  Armed Services  Committee,                                                               
sponsor of HJR 40, explained  that electromagnetic pulse (EMP) is                                                               
caused when  there's detonation  of nuclear  devices high  in the                                                               
atmosphere.  The EMP sends a  shock wave through the world, which                                                               
will disable  the power grid  and all the  communication systems.                                                               
Therefore, it will cause a  critical infrastructure problem.  She                                                               
informed  the  committee  that  in  2007  a  national  commission                                                               
provided a presentation to the Joint Armed Services Committee.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:34:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MCHUGH PIERRE,  Director of Communications,  Legislative Liaison,                                                               
Office  of  the   Commissioner/Adjutant  General,  Department  of                                                               
Military  & Veterans'  Affairs (DMVA),  related the  department's                                                               
support   of  the   efforts   of   research  and   understanding,                                                               
particularly for  the rapid  response community.   He  noted that                                                               
there's no specific  funding stream to study the  impacts of EMP,                                                               
although  it's  being  reviewed  in a  broad-based  manner.    He                                                               
expressed  hope   that  HJR  40   would  encourage   the  federal                                                               
government to  help out with  this [effort].  In  conclusion, Mr.                                                               
Pierre related DMVA's support for HJR 40.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:35:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL surmised that the  legislature could later be asked                                                               
to provide funds for some studies.   Therefore, he inquired as to                                                               
the planning that's [occurring] now.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PIERRE opined  that DMVA  has the  responsibility to  ensure                                                               
that the state  is able to recover from  emergencies and possible                                                               
EMP  attacks   so  that   critical  infrastructure   will  remain                                                               
[operable].   Mr. Pierre  said that he  didn't see  any immediate                                                               
plus-up in monitor support at  this time.  However, he reiterated                                                               
the need to  encourage the federal government  to make addressing                                                               
EMP attacks a priority.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:36:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KERTTULA  inquired as  to how one  defends against                                                               
electromagnetic pulse attacks.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. PIERRE deferred to Mr. Treadwell.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:37:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEAD TREADWELL, Senior  Fellow, Institute of the  North, began by                                                               
noting that he  works with the defense and security  program.  In                                                               
1996, the  Institute of  the North started  work on  security and                                                               
defense issues after  a recommendation from a  former director of                                                               
the Central  Intelligence Agency (CIA)  who pointed out  that the                                                               
then-current federal  missile defense  plans didn't  cover Alaska                                                               
and Hawaii.   A precursor  to the Joint Armed  Services Committee                                                               
worked a  resolution that was heard  significantly in Washington,                                                               
D.C. and ultimately  resulted in the withdrawal  from the Missile                                                               
Defense  Treaty.    Therefore,  today  there's  the  ground-based                                                               
missile system at  Fort Greely.  He gave  Alaska's legislators at                                                               
the time  much credit for  raising the  issue.  He  then informed                                                               
the committee that last year  [the Institute of the North] worked                                                               
with the  Joint Armed Services  Committee to bring  the executive                                                               
director and  a commissioner  from the  congressionally chartered                                                               
Commission  on Electromagnetic  Pulse  to  Alaska in  conjunction                                                               
with adjutant generals  for a briefing.   Mr. Treadwell mentioned                                                               
that  much of  the U.S.  military equipment  is hardened  against                                                               
EMP.   He then mentioned that  in 1962 there was  a high altitude                                                               
nuclear test performed  by the U.S. that shut  off radio stations                                                               
and electricity  in Hawaii  800 miles  away.   The aforementioned                                                               
resulted in the Atmospheric Test  Ban Treaty between the U.S. and                                                               
the Soviet Union.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TREADWELL  then  turned  to   where  [the  nation]  is  most                                                               
vulnerable from missile attack.   He said that it's unlikely that                                                               
there would be  a missile exchange with a super  power.  However,                                                               
it's a higher  likelihood that one scud missile  from a container                                                               
ship offshore  could be  aimed at  the U.S.   Depending  upon the                                                               
location  of the  detonation,  it  could result  in  the loss  of                                                               
communications  and   power  to   half  of   the  nation.     The                                                               
aforementioned is  why the commission was  created and continued.                                                               
The commission  is working on  plans for  states in the  event of                                                               
power and communication disruption from  an EMP.  This resolution                                                               
urges the federal  government to put funding  forward, accept the                                                               
resolutions of  the commission,  and move  forward in  a national                                                               
planning basis.  He then reviewed  the broader work to defend how                                                               
Alaska would  run its  pipelines and have  heat and  power, which                                                               
hasn't been addressed as well.   He then applauded those who have                                                               
taken the lead on this issue and  made it part of all the hazards                                                               
to the state.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
5:43:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON asked if the  only type of EMP weapons are                                                               
nuclear blasts.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. TREADWELL  said EMPs are  the only ones  he is aware  of that                                                               
would   have  broad,   high  intensity,   short-duration  bursts.                                                               
However,  he  said   he  believes  there  are   smaller  ways  to                                                               
dramatically  short  out  systems  with  jolts,  but  they  would                                                               
require connection to an electric power grid.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
5:44:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOHNSON mentioned  that some  television programs                                                               
show EMP technology  being used to stop an automobile  in a chase                                                               
situation.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:44:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL pointed out that  the resolution refers to the full                                                               
range of risks, which is fairly broad.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:45:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KERTTULA inquired  as to any treaties  that are in                                                               
place to address this issue.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. TREADWELL answered that there  are several reports that other                                                               
countries have  been preparing  weapons such as  EMPs.   Unless a                                                               
specialized weapon  is constructed, it's simply  a nuclear weapon                                                               
on a scud missile.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:46:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COGHILL  remarked that  he  is  glad  the issue  has  come                                                               
forward, but he questioned how the state would implement it.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TREADWELL  interjected that  Alaska,  as  the home  for  the                                                               
ground-based missile  defense system  for the  U.S., needs  to be                                                               
aware of the threats that EMPs  pose.  Although the scope of [the                                                               
ground-based  missile defense]  system isn't  enough to  defend a                                                               
major barrage  of attacks,  the system is  aimed at  small actors                                                               
with no  return address.   Having an understanding of  the threat                                                               
in the rest of the country would help folks understand how                                                                      
valuable the missile defense system is, he opined.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:48:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KERTTULA commented that [the resolution] might                                                                   
want to also encourage the development of other methodologies                                                                   
beyond the ballistic missile defense system.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:48:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL pointed out that the language on page 2, lines 22-                                                                
28, would likely encompass that.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
5:49:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SAMUELS moved to report HJR 40 out of committee                                                                  
with individual recommendations and the accompanying fiscal                                                                     
notes.  There being no objection, it was so ordered.                                                                            

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